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舊 2011-11-03, 21:38   #31
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作者: freeskier 查看文章
What I mean is that buttercookie can take the lvl 1 course first and then take the lvl 2 course right after he pass lvl 1. If the schedule of both course is close enough, he can do it in one trip. My Korean friend once did level one/two/ three in 3 months time. Now he is level four. The authorization is by CSIA level 3/4 course conductors.

The only way to skip CSIA lvl one is to get the CSCF lvl one first. Although the teaching method and target is not the same. The CSIA somehow tolerate the CSCF in this case. I think probably CSIA do not expect lvl one will do real teaching on the mountain therefore it does not matter. I did my CSCF lvl one after my CSIA lvl one, a waste of money, to think of that.


Thanks freeskier & skier for your good info.

I think CSIA 1 have more job opportunity in Japan, as in Canada CSIA 1 instructors can only teach kids/infants even at our relatively small ski resorts in Ontario!!
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舊 2011-11-04, 11:55   #32
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It is too late for this season, even they agree to hire you, it still takes a lot of time for applying the visa and things like that. One more thing is that, they might want ski instructors more than snowboard instructors. So, CSIA lvl 1 > CASI lvl 2.

If you have both and can speak Chinese? they will hire you for 100%
Very true, from my observation. SBer usually younger, young ppls less willing to pay for lesson...
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舊 2011-11-04, 12:06   #33
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Give me a hola when you are in Niseko.

If i am not working lets go for a slide.
Will you be there early March?
Look forward to see u on slope!!
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舊 2011-11-06, 13:00   #34
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作者: freeskier 查看文章
One more thing is that, they might want ski instructors more than snowboard instructors. So, CSIA lvl 1 > CASI lvl 2.
From my experience, most resorts always need more ski instructors than snowboard instructor.

作者: freeskier 查看文章
The only way to skip CSIA lvl one is to get the CSCF lvl one first.
In the past (6-7 years ago), if you have other certification from other country, you can skip CSIA or CASI 1. Mostly likely, you have to contact the national office to get the permission to register level 2 directly (Don't forget, you need a member # to register level 2 or higher courses). Last year when I gave a CASI 2 course, there were 2 candidates from Europe. They have certification from their country, so they didn't do CASI 1 and registered for CASI 2. I personally don't recommend skip level 1 and register level 2, unless you have strong ski/riding skill and have solid teaching background.

Just a reminder, after you got your CSIA/CASI 1, you have to pay due every year to keep a valid membership in order to work in snow school. ~$140 for CSIA and $90 for CASI, I guess.

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舊 2011-12-12, 20:17   #35
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Whistler instructors' pay schedule

This will give you an idea how much instructors got paid last year at Whistler -

http://www.wbsss.com/images/uploads/...0_Final_v2.pdf
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舊 2011-12-13, 12:48   #36
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This will give you an idea how much instructors got paid last year at Whistler -

http://www.wbsss.com/images/uploads/...0_Final_v2.pdf
Most instructors in Whistler's primary goal is not for the paid, otherwise they will be starving all winter. Here, they show you what they pay you, but they don't show you what they will deduct from your wages. The only reasons that I worked for them is for the free locker, free lift pass and free training. Don't take it as a job, take it as a working holiday.
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舊 2011-12-14, 06:33   #37
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Most instructors in Whistler's primary goal is not for the paid, otherwise they will be starving all winter. Here, they show you what they pay you, but they don't show you what they will deduct from your wages. The only reasons that I worked for them is for the free locker, free lift pass and free training. Don't take it as a job, take it as a working holiday.
The Whistler season pass costs C$1429 (if buy early), which works out something like C$12 per day. If I can afford to take a 4 months holiday to go skiing, most likely I won't worry too much about the cost of the locker and the season pass. Living expenses for the whole season is more of a concern.

The free training is a good enough reason though.

Like everything else in US, eg. going to the restaurant, taking a taxi, the porter in the hotel etc., the American expects to be tipped for their service. Reading a posting in another ski forum some time ago, someone asked would ski instructors expect to be tipped by their students at end of the lesson. Feedback from the ski instructors in USA indicated most of them expect a US$50 tip for a whole day private lesson. Less for a Group lesson (I guess).
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舊 2011-12-14, 11:40   #38
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Most instructors in Whistler's primary goal is not for the paid, otherwise they will be starving all winter. Here, they show you what they pay you, but they don't show you what they will deduct from your wages. The only reasons that I worked for them is for the free locker, free lift pass and free training. Don't take it as a job, take it as a working holiday.
Don't forget Dick make a good living.
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舊 2011-12-14, 11:44   #39
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The Whistler season pass costs C$1429 (if buy early), which works out something like C$12 per day. If I can afford to take a 4 months holiday to go skiing, most likely I won't worry too much about the cost of the locker and the season pass. Living expenses for the whole season is more of a concern.

The free training is a good enough reason though.

Like everything else in US, eg. going to the restaurant, taking a taxi, the porter in the hotel etc., the American expects to be tipped for their service. Reading a posting in another ski forum some time ago, someone asked would ski instructors expect to be tipped by their students at end of the lesson. Feedback from the ski instructors in USA indicated most of them expect a US$50 tip for a whole day private lesson. Less for a Group lesson (I guess).
But I don't think freeskier take much free training when he's working there. Me too.
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舊 2011-12-14, 13:27   #40
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Don't forget Dick make a good living.
Don't forget Dick do MORE than skiing.
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舊 2011-12-14, 13:35   #41
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Don't forget Dick do MORE than skiing.
We all know that, he doesn't really ski.

Recently, everytime I ask him to ski with us on the bumps, he always escape.
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舊 2011-12-14, 13:38   #42
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But I don't think freeskier take much free training when he's working there. Me too.
For me the ski pass and the free locker is more important than the training. Esp the ski locker, because there are only a few of seasonal rental locker in Whistler that you have to book one year in advance , and if you have luck, you get one. I don't attend the morning session because I was lazy and also because the only time I went, the instructor did not teach us anything except "guest service". However, I did attend all the training session Kawasaki gave.

IMO, When you spend a season on the mountain, you don't really need the training from the ski school, because everyone is so willing to TEACH you. Like this Mckay guy whom I recieved a lot of teaching from.
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舊 2011-12-14, 17:11   #43
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Haha, this is because Guest service is an imporant part of the CSIA, it's on Chapter 2 of the reference manual, though I bet you must have thrown it away by now =P
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舊 2011-12-15, 03:40   #44
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For me the ski pass and the free locker is more important than the training. Esp the ski locker, because there are only a few of seasonal rental locker in Whistler that you have to book one year in advance , and if you have luck, you get one. I don't attend the morning session because I was lazy and also because the only time I went, the instructor did not teach us anything except "guest service". However, I did attend all the training session Kawasaki gave.

IMO, When you spend a season on the mountain, you don't really need the training from the ski school, because everyone is so willing to TEACH you. Like this Mckay guy whom I recieved a lot of teaching from.
I never taught you and you also won't think my skiing is good.

Kawasaki is a good skier but not a good teacher from my point of view.

Recent years, I attend quite a bit of PDP, 4 last year and find some pretty good teachers.

anyway hope to see you on Whistler this April.
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舊 2011-12-15, 11:53   #45
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Hi Mckay, just wonder would you consider Mark Jones and Cam MacKenzie as good teacher? I joined the YES course led by them this coming January, so just wodnering what to expect.
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